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Posted by openfire on 17 November 2010 - 10:49 PM
Posted by RUSTY420 on 28 October 2013 - 07:23 PM
Posted by rick james on 09 May 2015 - 11:48 PM
5. Right rig.
I tie my high vis mainline to my shot line via a micro swivel and then my shot line to the my leader with another micro swivel. I start with larger weight (size AB or BB) closer to top of my shot line and get smaller as a go down (no. 1 or no. 4 shot). I'm careful to match the amount of weight to the size float I'm using. My float is attached by tubing above my first weight and I'll slide it up or down above or below the top swivel depending on the depth I'm drifting. I'll use bulkier floats for faster/choppier water and longer/thinner floats for slow water. Medium bulk floats are good for most conditions. I'll also adjust my weights, for example, sliding most closer to the bottom swivel in faster water when I want the bait to get down faster. I usually use 0.20 mm diameter fluorocarbon for the leader but if conditions are clear I'll go 0.18mm or in dirtier water 0.22 mm. I also use fluorocarbon for my shot line, a thicker diameter than my leader but less than my mainline . My shot line is usually about 3-4 ft in length and my leader about 12-24 inches, again depending. I'll sometimes tie a second leader directly onto the hook of my first leader to drift 2 baits simultaneously i.e. bead/fly at the top and bag/worm/pinkie at the bottom to increase my odds at success. I like using sedge hook in sizes 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16, generally fishing smaller hooks and smaller baits in clearer conditions.
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Posted by swiftcurrent on 25 February 2015 - 03:22 PM
I respect where you're coming from, and a simple heads up that an item may have been, or is on sale someplace is a nice thing to do. But, beyond that, I think nothing else needs to be said. This is a buy and sell section and a person has every right to ask what they feel they want for an item. As buyers we can pay, choose to look else where or even bargain. Coppa has every right to even profit on shrewd buy, if that happens to be the case. The fact that you would'nt pay more then $200 for this reel is irrelevant. Ross makes a great product and its upto the purchaser to do their due diligence and decide what its worth to them. I don't think it's necessary to dissolve into this petty back and forth. Unless you know something illegal is occuring or have had a bad buying experience a particular seller I think it's unfair to hijack someone's 'buy/sell' thread with unsubstantiated allegations of wrong doing.
Just my two cents.
Posted by fishfearme on 28 April 2014 - 09:50 PM
There are a couple of things about this thread:
1) It seems that a lot of people concerned with numbers. When did fishing become about keeping score. Too many people missing the point IMO.
'What was once a trout-cold, hard, spotted and beautiful-now becomes "number seven" ' - Thomas McGuane
2) There is blatant mishandling of fish. Fish laying bleeding on the ground, fish in the mud, fish in the grass, fish being held by the gills; all bad examples of how to properly handle a fish. I realize that these are hearty fish, they wouldn't be able to make this annual journey if they weren't, but lets remember that as river fishermen (and women) we are targeting these fish at their most vulnerable. I'm not some kind of bleeding heart activist, and I'm not trying to stir up any bs, I'm simply asking that we show a little respect to the amazing fish we chase, and that we set a good example for the new generation of steelheader that may be browsing this thread. Personally I love all things steelheading, and want to make sure that my children have the same opportunity to fall in love with these incredible creatures.
Posted by alwayscatching on 19 October 2013 - 12:51 AM
Hey guys, I get a lot of questions about how to get started bass fishing beyond the simple ugly stick and spinning reel combo. How do I prep to fish deeper water with cranks? How do I get fish out of the heavy cover? Realistically to anyone who is not as serious as I am or most others, there are 3 basic rods that you should look to invest and 3 reels along with them.
1. Start your journey with the purchase of a 6'10- 7 ft MH Fast Action Baitcaster. This will primarily be your jerkbait, spinnerbait, crankbait, lipless crankbait, and possibly some topwater plugs. Without breaking the bank you can aim to buy yourself a Mojo Bass St.Croix rod. They are not as expensive and if you can buy one used then you will pay a lot less. As for a reel, you can use anything from a 4.7:1 - 5.5:1(the bass pro qualifier reel is great for the price and I would load it up with suffix siege clear mono line)
2. I also recommend getting a nice spinning rod 6'8 or 7'2 Extra Fast Action. This can be your rod for tossing wacky senkos, tubes, drop shot, finesse shaky heads. For this situation I love pairing up a shimano Crucial with an Abu Garcia reel. The Crucial is great but only if you buy it used, do not pay retail for it. If you have the extra cash to spend on a reel, the Abu Garcia Revo SX spinning reel is amazing! Suggested on my end.
3. Now the fun part. I am a big fan of flipping a jig into that cover, or punching a tungsten skirted weight with a creature bait on the hook. If you really do not want to spend too much money, the Abu Garcia Veritas 7 ft Heavy Fast Action rod is a great start. For 79.99 they are very reasonable. Again if you can find it used BUY IT. I am sure you can snag one for 50 bucks. Make sure that the baitcaster you pair it with has a ratio of 7.1:1 at least.
These are the basic 3. You do not need to spend over 500 bucks on all sorts of rod and reels and different baits. You can easily fish a full day on the lake with these 3 types of set ups. Now if you have money and are willing to get yourself a full arsenal then I support you!
Cheers and thanks for reading if you took the time. Do not forget to green arrow if you liked!
Posted by despotiko on 29 August 2013 - 07:38 PM
Bass if you ask me are garbage, they arent hard to catch, can be found in most still waters. Not much of a fight. 18lbs line to catch a 2-7lbs fish. Right where is the challenge? Go to a lake, look for lilly pads, branches in the water a bit of shade and BAM there is Bass. They can populate a lake in no time they are not illusive, they are not spooked very easily. If this hurts your feelings. Call Dr.Phil.
lmao Thats about a ignant as it gets. You should fish bass tournaments with all that valuable knowledge you have. Guiga, as for your question; since these fish are migrating it would make the most sense to fish areas closer to the mouth after a good rain, as the water levels drop you can either fish higher up in a system for fish that have already migrated from the previous run, or you can fish at the piers for staging fish that will be running after the next rise in water levels. Of course this is a general rule and can be vary slightly depending on the time of year. The fish that are running now are headed as far upstream to cooler water as possible and wont hold in the lower sections as much as they will be come autumn when we get cooler, more favourable water temps. Best thing you can do is keep fishing your home waters, get to know them intimately, keep a close eye on the weather and river conditions and it will all come together for you. These fish are no where near as ILLUSIVE or difficult to catch as some believe they are, with practice you'll get the hang of it. And there's nothing wrong with asking for help, don't let others discourage you.
Posted by redneckchromer on 28 December 2012 - 07:12 PM
its my bad--having a little too much fun...
this is what you call fun? trolling our forum? posting nonsense? Have you ever posted a successful report or has it all just been brand bashing, harassing and flaunting new gear ?
Posted by MuskieBait on 12 August 2014 - 05:18 PM
First off, nice fish regardless of actual size. Good couple hours of fishing.
Now I'm going to rip it apart...
So ... I took a stab at analyzing the photo by using some common human anatomy measurements like the average width of eye and length of an ear to come up with the following:
eye: 15/32" to 15/16"
In pixels on the photo:
visible eye: 30
fish to ear ratio- 1: 10.5
fish to eye ratio- 1: 28
According to average ear length the fish is: 26.46"
According to average visible eye width the fish is: 26.25"
So, my crackpot science sort of confirms that the fish was a BEAST! nice catch.
26" would still be a mutant smallmouth.
Do your measurements take into account that the fish is being held out in front of the fisherman?
A picture can make a bass look longer than the CN tower due to positioning..
Hence crackpot science as rybak stated. His method of estimation is only believable if and only if you compare two objects that are within the same plane in the photo. For example...measuring a segment of a finger that is held against the body of the fish.
But...it does prove a point the fish was over estimated.
Certain common objects can offer some estimate of the fish...regardless of how big or small the person in the picture may be. People often claim they are such and such height and weight and grossly overestimate fish size. I just had to look at the size of the ball cap visor and say BS because an unbent ball cap visor is usually 7"-7.5" wide. When bent, it ranges from 5.5"-6.5" wide...depending on the size of the "roof top".
Otherwise...to prove a point...I set this experiment up...
2 American pennies (Don't have Canadian pennies anymore ) set on a piano bench exactly (measured) 12" away from each other in "depth", and 1" slightly offset with each other laterally.
First picture was taken with the camera lens set exactly (measured) 22" above ground, and exactly (measured) 12" away from the closer penny (and exactly 24" from the further penny). This is a fairly unrealistic situation where the object (fish and angler) is so close to the lens...but use here to illustrate a point.
In this case, the closer penny is 191 pixels in diameter, while the further penny is 101 pixels in diameter. If we use the further penny as comparison for "actual size", then the penny that is closer is enlarged 89%...it almost doubles in size! I don't really need to tell you that. You can probably see that the penny that is further away is 1/2 the size.
OK...let's bring the camera back from the pennies.
Second picture was taken with the camera lens set at the same height (22"), and exactly 36" away from the closer penny (and exactly 48" from the further penny).
In this case, the closer penny is 68 pixels in diameter, while the further penny is 51 pixels in diameter. Again, using the further penny as comparison for "actual size", the penny that is closer is enlarged 33%! Again, I don't need to tell you that the penny that is further away is about 3/4 of the size.
So...as you can see, the enlargement factor is quite severe. I don't think I need to tell anyone that holding a fish closer to the lens makes the fish look bigger...but I don't know if people are aware just how much "bigger" the fish looks.
The further you set apart the pennies, the bigger the discrepency in size. I love how people always mention how big they are in the picture. If you claim you are taller and wider in built, it also implies your arms are longer and the fish is held out further...which means the actual size of the fish is actually smaller than it appears. It works against you...not for you.
But still, rybak's estimation has merits. If we take my measurements and enlargement ratios to what rybak has measuered, assuming that the photographer was 36" away from the fish and the fish was held out a reasonable 12" from the face (which I'm being generous...because with arms from a 6'1" body it is more than 12"...after all, a ball cap brim is about 5" long)...then you have an enlargement ratio of 33%...or flip it around we should shrink the fish to 75% of the apparent size...
That means the fish is 19.8" (round up)...Which is what I estimated without doing all that silly photography and calculation anyways.
Again, I'm being generous here assuming that the fish was ONLY held out 12" from the face.
All that to say...the smallies looks to be 4-5lb fish...and people should not overestimate an Ontario record breaking fish length without a tape measure...because that estimation certianly looks fishy. A 31" smallie it isn't unless you can show some pictures of the fish beside a tape.
BTW, if you really claimed the smallie is 31" long, then your forearm must be 24" long. You must be an orangutan...
Posted by MuskieBait on 20 May 2014 - 11:46 AM
It's a bit dated (from Apr 20, 2014)
Fishing is not always about the fish. As a member of the Toronto Urban Fishing Ambassador, I try to promote fishing in Toronto whenever I can...as long as my fishing isn't interrupted too much LOL.
I love to chat about fishing with people in general, but I really do love to share the sport with kids.
Today, I was fishing in a river right in downtown Toronto. This river is as urban as it gets. Since Trout Opener is still 6 days to come (Yes!!! 6 more days!!!), I figure I would get some more practice drifting, reading waters and setting some hooks into fish.
Well, the fish were really tight to bottom so in the end I did more bottom bouncing than float fishing. I was getting nothing on the float until I met Dave by sheer coincidence and we started bottom bouncing the pool. It didn't take long to catch some of the White Suckers we were after.
While we were fishing, a family came by. First it was the mom with a 2 year old boy. She was interested to find there were fish in this "dirty" river. Soon I was able to catch and show them a healthy White Sucker. The 2 year old was a bit unnerved by the fish. However, his older brother came to join us. As in my typical fashion, when kids are around, I work hard to try to get a fish on the hook and then hand off the rod. Dave said I have a touch for catching fish on demand for kids. Indeed, it only took the next cast to get one. I handed the rod to the boy and with some coaching he was able to bring a nice White Sucker to the bank. It was his first fish ever.
We released this fish and chatted about the importance of catch and release and selective harvest. We also mentioned that fish in Toronto is not as heavily polluted as some may think. You just need to know which species can be safely eaten and how many meals a week to consume. It is all about moderation. I wasn't trying to preach these ideas. The family were interested and they asked the questions.
As much as I love to catch fish of my own, and work on my lifelist, there is really very little that compares to the accomplishment I receive when I can help kids learn to fish...and especially catch their first fish.
Although I'm a bit less involved with TUFA these days, I always look forward to volunteering at any of the family fishing events every year. To me, there is nothing more important to our sport of fishing than promoting fishing to the next generation and to instill important conservation concepts in their young minds.
Posted by alwayscatching on 23 September 2013 - 08:37 PM
Or you can always just ask me if I am free and I would meet anyone there. I usually do my stocking up around this time of year.
Posted by alwayscatching on 23 September 2013 - 10:08 AM
I thought I would just toss out what basic bass setups I have and maybe you guys can reference some of my specs to yours or maybe for future you may want to try out some of what I have to offer in terms of specs. Keep in mind guys, I typically use 40-65 lbs braided line with 25 lbs fluorocarbon leaders UNLESS I am using a crankbait stick in which case you may want to have a full line of 10-12 lbs Seaguar Fluorocarbon. Also for spinnerbaits I use straight braid and do not use a swivel! It can actually take away from the action. I use an open loop and tie my knot directly to them.
Posted by ChaseChrome on 05 September 2013 - 07:37 PM
It seems the system we have in place...a few strategic invites and pms is adequate...jmo
I will leave to far more profound and judicious minds than this one...
Posted by CJR on 18 January 2013 - 05:01 PM
salmon arent that hard on a CP. Sometimes you get the super hot fish that you dont stand a chance with but I landed quite a few salmon this season in less than 5 minutes on a 4-8lb 13'4 rod. RIGHT IN THE MOUF!
Posted by AKnook on 31 October 2012 - 02:05 PM
Posted by Guest on 04 April 2012 - 05:05 PM
Let's keep it reasonable boys.
SOUNDS LIKE A MAN who is reasonable!
Dear Fellow and Respected Members of OFF,
Recently I went fishing for suckers and made 3 posts relevant to the situation.
It appears that this topic has caused (2) threads to be LOCKED.
I can only hope that this thread will remain open ... allowing for intelligent conversation.
If not ... Would having 3 threads in a week closed be a record at OFF?
So.... my very first excursion out to get some SUCKERS began like this:
1. Picked about 3-4 dozen worms the night before
2. Decided to TAKE the GO BUS to DUFFINS CREEK(Have fished the sucker runs there 7 years in a row)
3. Got off at CHURCH & KINGSTON RD
4. Headed down the trail towards the CNR TRACKS and 401 POOL
5. Stopped at (2) holes along the way (Always hold largesucker pods)
FACT: IT IS LEGAL to FISH these WATERS for SUCKERS
6. Ended up catching 1 Trout in one pool and 2 inthe next. The other 4 were all caught at the CNR -401 POOL! (OPEN SEASON on EVERTHING)
7. In each pool before arriving at the CNR-401 location, I had received bites from Chub and what felt like suckers
All the TROUT were released
So.... I published an HONEST ACCOUNT of my day of fishing. Does this seem like a conspiracy of someone trying to “Beat the system” or hide their actions?
I take it that all my hundreds of positive posts and topics and contributions were all part of an eleborate scheme ... to fool the TROUT MAFIA?
I truly suspect the vast majority of “HATE RESPONSES’ are coming from individuals who are:
· SELF RIGHTIOUS
· MAINLY NEGATIVE CONTRIBUTORS
*PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION to those who love to
JUDGE others, arrive at ASSUMPTIVE CONCLUSIONS.... and God forbid, if you
OPINION IS DIFFERENT!
Apparently, trout is the ONLY SPECIES of any importance.
The same “Ethical Know it alls” are often seen throwing Chub& Suckers & Carp up on the shoreline to DIE. Guess the “TROUT ONLY SIGN” on their offering was ignored.
Same guys who assume that anyone not using a CENTRE PIN...must be a loogan, poacher or snagger.
Every year at BRONTE, CREDIT, HUMBER, WILMOT ... Bowmanville,I see the CARNAGE left on the shorelines. Considering the number one choice of bait for Steel headers is ROE.... there would be absolutely no coincidence of association here, would there?
Seeing the BROWNS slit open is especially disheartening.
Course only a “STEELHEADER” of high moral fortitude would even imagine that the BROWN ROE is the BOMB.... right?
My intentions were for catching SUCKERS.
I really do not need to justify anything to anyone.
Subsequently, I have not fished for suckers in any “Closed Trout Area”.
Last night, while fishing for SUCKERS with worms - I caught:
Bass, Suckers, Chub and TROUT!
Who would have thought?
All were released.
This weekend, I will go out and do the same.
I can only hope more of us will get out and enjoy the wonderful opportunities out there.
Best to all!
Posted by openfire on 06 October 2011 - 05:54 AM
First off, my hat goes off to Efka who has done a marvelous job at keeping some semblance of order around here during my absence.
Secondly, to all the members, thank you for your patience.
The format that is currently in place was intended to exist in conjunction with the reports sections, as they existed in the previous version of OFF, as the older members may recall. The reports sections were removed "temporarily" during the last forum upgrade as we were under-taking a massive re-organization of the both the style and functionality of the board. Unfortunately, I was pulled away from OFF before the forum upgrade was completed and all the new features could be fully implemented, including the new gallery, new reports sections and other new and upgraded features.
I think I'm correct in assuming that much of the conflict here recently is related in part to the absence of the private reports sections, where members may freely discuss detailed reports, including locations, as well as an influx of new and in some cases, rude members. This will be rectified soon, as:
1) When I have some free time, my first order of business will be to read through the last few months of posts and -- to put it bluntly -- I will ban the less "mature" members who Efka has not already banned.
2) I'm planning yet another OFF upgrade at some time in the very near future to include all the upgrades mentioned above and more... once I wrap up the project that I'm currently involved in.
Hopefully the above two measures will assist OFF during these "growing pains". I don't have a precise time-frame yet, but it will be "soon".
In the mean time, I am eliminating the ability to "negative rep". I think this causes hostility and serves no real purpose other than to perpetuate ill will among members.
Thanks for your patience, and I appreciate the feedback.
Posted by Guest on 05 October 2011 - 04:10 AM
Almost every other post involves some NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
Specifically: FLOSSING, LINING, MASHMELLOWS, "Only Shore Fishing is Flossing", POACHERS, FLAMMING, CRUDE COMMENTS
There are certain individuals who "lead the pack" in these matters.
and those who seem to "Feed ON" this kind of behavior.
-Infatuated with accusing every single person of Flossing / Lining - poaching
-Jumping on people about "Secret Spots"
-Ridiculing peoples setups and choice of bait
-Making fun of those who lose equipment
“SALMON” and “FISHING EXPERTS” ? ...."Know it alls"
... yet have posted few reports, no personal info, barely any TOPICS
This MUST come to a stop!
The MODERATOR(s) even confirmed that "Some" of these individuals were BANNED.
Hopefully when OPENFIRE returns from vacation, this can be remedied.
Is this acceptable behaviour?
OFF was once:
a FREINDLY PLACE
where INFORMATION was shared
REPORTS & POSTS were POSITIVE
You would rarely see ( –minus reputation points) being so randomly handed out.
In fact it was the OPPOSITE ( +1 were given to those who gave good ADVICE & REPORTS ... not CRUDE REMARKS!)
“Thankyou’s” were given to those individuals who took the time and courtesy to receive them from fellow CONTRIBUTORS.
Not anymore! What a shame.
I would hope that the MEMBERS of this SITE will take action(s) and put a stop to this nonsense.
Please write the ADMINSTRATORS/MODERATORS.
I have had enough of this and from what I have been reading & seeing lately, I know most of you have as well.
Why are the Posts/ Reports down?
Why are people getting fed up and leaving (including myself)?
Why are there so many -minus reps?
Why do people get +1 for crude remarks and inappropriate opinions?
Posted by ChaseChrome on 14 September 2013 - 01:17 PM
To all new members: Please ensure you read these guidelines before asking questions and/or posting information about sensitive watersheds...your posts will be immediately deleted...
Steelhead and Salmon forum rules
- Naming Rivers: The naming of any specific river or tributary is not permitted in the publicly viewable general discussion forum. Instead, please refer to the river by the general area it is located, ie “East Trib”, “West Trib”, “GB (Georgian Bay) Trib”, etc. For example, you are not allowed to say "I had a great day fishing yesterday on Wilmot Creek", instead, we encourage members to say "I had a great day fishing yesterday on an East Trib". The former statement should be relegated to the reports sections (coming soon), away from public view.
- Lining Debate: "Lining", "snagging" or "flossing" fish is a hot-button topic that often ruins otherwise productive conversations. In order to keep the general discussion forum clean, helpful and productive, it is the policy of OFF that any and all "lining" conversation/debate be conducted in the "Salmonid Insanity" sub-forum.
- Forum Etiquette: Simple - Be polite, keep it civil. All personal attacks, insults, inflammatory remarks, threats, racist remarks, trolling and otherwise rude and/or immature behaviour are strictly forbidden and will be met with disciplinary action up to and including permanent banning.