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Snow Carp! turned out to be a nice day today

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:45 PM

Ive spoken with many different people on the matter who work in the environmental industry who consider carp to be invasive. I was communicating with the Invasive Species Hotline and they informed me that the only reason they are not listed as invasive is due to politics. There are always projects going on to try and get carp out of certain areas to help with the spawning of true native species that werent stocked their by man kind(one example is the Royal Boutanical Gardens). Common Carp possess all of the characteristics of an invasive species, they cause damage to the fisheries that they can be found in and most importantly they reproduce and increase their population very quickly and outcompete native species for resources. Common Carp = Invasive

They are definately a very enjoyable and readily available species to catch however that shouldnt cause us to view them as a native species. Their effects reach much further than the effects on bass, pike, brookies etc. Common Carp are capable of destroying entire wetlands and all forms of life that depend on those wetlands, they are a very very big problem and while it may be impossible to eliminate them it is not impossible to try to control the population.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:58 PM

Another interesting fact is that they only digest half of the plant matter they eat and the rest is expelled into the water causing enriched nutrient levels and algae blooms and decreased oxygen levels.....they eat a TON of plant matter.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:14 PM

View PostNADO, on 24 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I was communicating with the Invasive Species Hotline and they informed me that the only reason they are not listed as invasive is due to politics


You mean because they attract people to gardens/places etc. that keep carp in their ponds for people to feed?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostMichaelAngelo, on 25 February 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

You mean because they attract people to gardens/places etc. that keep carp in their ponds for people to feed?

If by politics they mean the government not wasting money trying to achieve something that is impossible I am all for those kind of politics. The real politics are being played by those that want to get a hold of government money by using the latest scary buzz word " invasive species. "

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

View Posthammercarp, on 26 February 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

If by politics they mean the government not wasting money trying to achieve something that is impossible I am all for those kind of politics. The real politics are being played by those that want to get a hold of government money by using the latest scary buzz word " invasive species. "


The threat of invasive species is nothing to belittle....

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:59 AM

View Postdespotiko, on 02 February 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

I was planning on trying some carp fishing this spring/summer,but why wait i guess, they look nice in the snow. Havent caught to many other than incidental catches at the gorge while targeting bows. One thing i know is that these things can run! Exciting fish to battle with for sure :razz: . Where abouts do you fish for them? Ive seen videos in the UK of ponds stocked full of carp, anything like that around here?

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You could also check this site out. It is a link to a site set up by the MNR. Here's your money at work providing anglers with useful information about places to fish for carp and other species.
Where to fish.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:27 PM

View PostMichaelAngelo, on 25 February 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

You mean because they attract people to gardens/places etc. that keep carp in their ponds for people to feed?


No mainly issues with the pro-life advocacy equivalents of the fish world saying they shouldnt be hurt and we cant elimanate them so what is the point in taking the life. Also many anglers arent comfortable or dont have the stomach to euthanize such a large fish.

View Posthammercarp, on 26 February 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

If by politics they mean the government not wasting money trying to achieve something that is impossible I am all for those kind of politics. The real politics are being played by those that want to get a hold of government money by using the latest scary buzz word " invasive species. "



let me guess.....gobies and snakeheads arent a threat either???? And we should all release them because they are life forms too and we cant do anything to control the population..........I think I just puked in my mouth...

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:39 PM

Here's some winter carp fishing . In-Fisherman magazine is very progressive . They are considered a world class authority on freshwater fishing . In 1995 they proclaimed the common carp as the worlds greatest sport fish!
http://www.in-fisher...shing-for-carp/

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