Quality gear costs money....................
Tx captain obvious
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 07:27 PM
Quality gear costs money....................
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 11:16 PM
Tx captain obvious
Posted 10 May 2017 - 11:37 PM
So why are you ripping on people that buy good gear and wear it to a local river or stream? Don't be mad you can't afford any Simms gear bro......
Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:53 AM
Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:05 AM
What im trying to say is that i feel sometimes it seems that showing off a brand or buying the most expensive gear and bragging about it and these whole groups of guys showing up at a little creek with thousands of dollars of gear pushing guys with lesser equipment out takes away from the purpose of the sport. I dont mean offensive to anyone in particular.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 07:11 AM
Coming from the guy pushing Islander Reels
Posted 12 May 2017 - 08:30 AM
Dude you are bragging about owning very expensive reels, yet you are knocking people who wear simms gear... can you say hypocrite?
When you're the person who thinks everybody else has a problem, you are probably the problem.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:13 AM
Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:55 AM
If at some point you've managed to structure your time to allow for fishing basically 24/7 for some period of time, you know that gear is the least important aspect of fishing. Many a old timer in Ontario know this, and fish with cheapest line possible, basic rod and reel.
If fishing is something you love but you have other commitments and priorities (perhaps career, family, etc.) and you only get to spend a limited amount of time on the bank, I can see why this kind of angler would derive much of his/her satisfaction from their gear. Because they ain't catching squat! Hah kidding, but seriously if they have enough disposable income to deck themselves out in expensive gear, sobeit.
I don't think local tackle shops are trying to convince anyone to mortgage their home for more gear or they won't catch fish. Let the splugers splurge, catchers will keep catching, regardless of their gear.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:26 PM
If at some point you've managed to structure your time to allow for fishing basically 24/7 for some period of time, you know that gear is the least important aspect of fishing. Many a old timer in Ontario know this, and fish with cheapest line possible, basic rod and reel.
For those who have this lifestyle chances are they cant afford anything better.
I cant think of any over priced gear that doesn't offer a tangible benefit other than top shelf float reels. Better line means less twist or less breakage, better reel means more quality internal components so it will last long and you wont get into drag sticking down the road, better rod.....that's self explanatory.
I just picked up a simms jacket this year because I was sick and tired of spending days fishing in heavy rain and not being able to stay dry. I haven't had the chance to test it out yet but i'm really hoping it makes a difference. If you are a serious angler who will go out and fish regardless of the forecast then it pays to have the right gear. My fishing day is Saturday and I don't have the luxury of saying i'll just go tomorrow when the weather is better, regardless of the conditions I will be there.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 01:20 PM
For those who have this lifestyle chances are they cant afford anything better.
I cant think of any over priced gear that doesn't offer a tangible benefit other than top shelf float reels. Better line means less twist or less breakage, better reel means more quality internal components so it will last long and you wont get into drag sticking down the road, better rod.....that's self explanatory.
I just picked up a simms jacket this year because I was sick and tired of spending days fishing in heavy rain and not being able to stay dry. I haven't had the chance to test it out yet but i'm really hoping it makes a difference. If you are a serious angler who will go out and fish regardless of the forecast then it pays to have the right gear. My fishing day is Saturday and I don't have the luxury of saying i'll just go tomorrow when the weather is better, regardless of the conditions I will be there.
I disagree. Personally, I wouldn't spent more on gear if the overpriced gear is MARGINALLY better and offering less than value.
You know I'm as serious an angler as it gets. I've had a Helly Hanson rain suit that was $70 (jacket and pants). It lasted me over 10 years. If I hadn't lost the rain pants on a recent trip, I'll still be using it. It has traveled to 5 continents with me and climbed mountains and sloshed though the Amazon. It kept me perfect dry and warm even in torrential rain. Why should I buy Simms when I can save that money and put it toward traveling?
As with any gear, how the gear perform and the longevity of the gear is dependent on care and proper use. Washing the rain gear and replenishing the waterproofing chemicals will make the gear last much longer.
Simms waders will fall apart after a season of hard, constant use. So what's the point of the pricey item in the end if it will fall apart anyways? For the pair of one Simms, I can purchase 2 pairs of cheaper waders and I can actually wear them harder without the worry of "don't want to tear my expensive waders" that I so often hear.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 03:03 PM
We must have different definitions of dry and torrential rain, either that or the Helly Hansen suit is an impermeable sweat factory. You can take the same material my cheap waders are made out of and turn them into a rain jacket but I would rather get wet than wear something like that all day. Ive tried a few different waterproofing chemicals that were recommended and they do help but when you get into your fourth straight hour of a good rain they all succumb to the moisture.
Thats not the point though lol I was just saying that there are tangible benefits to spending more on good gear. Take a Shimano Sienna and a Shimano Saros, I own both and there is a big difference between the way the drag performs on them. Same with the Shimano compre rod and the Shimano crucial, night and day difference between the two.
Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:33 PM
We must have different definitions of dry and torrential rain, either that or the Helly Hansen suit is an impermeable sweat factory. You can take the same material my cheap waders are made out of and turn them into a rain jacket but I would rather get wet than wear something like that all day. Ive tried a few different waterproofing chemicals that were recommended and they do help but when you get into your fourth straight hour of a good rain they all succumb to the moisture.
Thats not the point though lol I was just saying that there are tangible benefits to spending more on good gear. Take a Shimano Sienna and a Shimano Saros, I own both and there is a big difference between the way the drag performs on them. Same with the Shimano compre rod and the Shimano crucial, night and day difference between the two.
Dry = not wet.
Torrential = tropical monsoon.
How hard is that rain? I forgot my rain gear one morning and was soaked down the the undiee, socks and soles within 1min of rain.
Also...is Hurricane Katrina (H1 state) heavy enough (yes, I camped through Katrina)? How about Tornado warning?
2h hours of cool (temp wise) tropical monsoon in 30C heat. I'd take my Helly Hensen rain jacket any day. It is made of breathable material.
But anyways, while I am making my point, yes, I do agree there is a minimum level of competency in the gear. I'm not talking about wearing a garbage bag, or am I talking about fishing with a $20 reel. Simms, however, is beyond competent.
A great drummer can put out great beats using pots, pans, bowls and cups. If you're competent, you can adapt to even subpar gear. Is it more enjoyable with great gear? Sure. Is it necessarily worth that money for marginally better gear...not always.
I guess I'm just one that value the ability to travel vs. the need for top end gear.
Posted 13 May 2017 - 03:22 AM
Posted 13 May 2017 - 07:23 AM
Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:14 AM
Dry = not wet.
Torrential = tropical monsoon.
How hard is that rain? I forgot my rain gear one morning and was soaked down the the undiee, socks and soles within 1min of rain.
Also...is Hurricane Katrina (H1 state) heavy enough (yes, I camped through Katrina)? How about Tornado warning?
2h hours of cool (temp wise) tropical monsoon in 30C heat. I'd take my Helly Hensen rain jacket any day. It is made of breathable material.
But anyways, while I am making my point, yes, I do agree there is a minimum level of competency in the gear. I'm not talking about wearing a garbage bag, or am I talking about fishing with a $20 reel. Simms, however, is beyond competent.
A great drummer can put out great beats using pots, pans, bowls and cups. If you're competent, you can adapt to even subpar gear. Is it more enjoyable with great gear? Sure. Is it necessarily worth that money for marginally better gear...not always.
I guess I'm just one that value the ability to travel vs. the need for top end gear.
Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:07 PM
If you can afford all this gear, pay yourself a trip to some real steelhead river and get out of the tiny creek flossing fish in ankle high water.like the fishbum crew did in tv
^ Exactly.
Many people say they can't afford to travel...then the turn around to spent $400 on a reel, and $300 on a jacket...and everything adds up.
What does a ticket to BC cost when it is on sale? $400 return. And you can have a lifetime of memory fishing in world class rivers instead of local ditches.
For me, the local fishing is just here to scratch an itch...it's convenient...but after doing it for more than 20 years, it's all ho hum.
The real adventures is "out there"...and I'd much rather spend the money to get "out there".
And to your original point...yeah...not into this trendy stuff. The FishBum gear is way too annoying for my eyes. You have people wearing "bad ass" designs...and they're fishing for wimpy bass and walleye locally...thinking it's "hardcore"...whatever...
I'm sure my opinion will not be well received...but if you want to be hardcore, let your action speaks for itself...not your clothing. Go actually do something with your fishing that is truly unique and hardcore...not follow what everyone else is doing...
Posted 13 May 2017 - 11:21 PM
Posted 13 May 2017 - 11:38 PM
Tastes vary, if I don't have a taste for this clothing but someone else happens to, no big deal. Good on them for finding a niche.
I also don't have a taste for girls with tattoos (and I'm sure they don't have a taste for me).
$400 return to BC is pretty good, but even better deal is how cheaply you can get to Hawaii!
Posted 13 May 2017 - 11:44 PM
Tastes vary, if I don't have a taste for this clothing but someone else happens to, no big deal. Good on them for finding a niche.
I also don't have a taste for girls with tattoos (and I'm sure they don't have a taste for me).
$400 return to BC is pretty good, but even better deal is how cheaply you can get to Hawaii!
$450 return to Hawaii. Not kidding. My grandma lives on Oahu so I'm always looking at cheap flights to the islands.
How about $300 to Costa Rica or $500 to Peru?
$250 to Florida and you're truly fishing in bad ass waters.
The sky is the limit.
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