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#1 fishfight

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 03:28 PM

If anyone from Toronto area wanted to carpool, split gas expense, and fish Niagara river system or Port Delhousie during winter months. Let me know. Both  area seldom  freeze over. Only occasional  thin ice layer drifting on the surface, when winter is in full force around February months. Otherwise no issue casting hardware most of the time. 

 

You can float fish or cast lures, or bottom bounce, depending on the area. Fish are not as spooked as most smaller river system.  

 

I live close to finch subway station, North York area.  so I can pick you up along the way, or we can meet up. 

 

It does not get too windy down at the gorge even at 25km/hr. The only issue we have to worry about is overly stained water condition after a strong SW wind 1- 2 days before our trip. Water clarity issue is somewhat predictable from satellite imagery of  lake Erie. During sunny conditions, it is more visible to know if the strong wind had created stained water flowing to Niagara river. I have caught fish using artificial even if water was 2ft visibility. https://coastwatch.g...region=e&page=1

 

I also fish Port hope, Bowmanville, duffin creek, and other eastern tribe area. 

 

Now is a good time to try Niagara river area. There might still be some salmon there, and trout fishing just about to heat up. I have Flexible schedule. 

 

Joshua................ PM me.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:54 PM

Thanks for couple of you that responded. Looking forward to having a nice time fishing with you guys on sunday, and exchanging stories. Joshua


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:26 PM

Can't wait for the update. Great day to be out and about.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 10:19 PM

Hey Josh if ur interested in trolling boq for eyes i would definitely take u up on the offer, i did it this summer & am not really excited abt pan fishing in small body of water anymore.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 10:55 PM

What a fantastic day!  Learned a ton from "fishfight", awesome guy that I'm glad I met.  Most knowledgeable angler I've ever met.  I'm new to this game (river fishing), in fact I've never in my life caught trout or salmon before (been targeting bass for the last while).  2nd cast---a 5lb steelhead, which I had for a few seconds and tried to reel it in like a bass---didn't work, it jumped a couple of times and off it went.  6th or 7th cast----a 10+ lb chinook.  Learning from my first mistake, didn't try to force it out.  But also didn't set the hook---at all.  Enough for it to present itself on the surface for a few seconds, and off it went.  All I can say---I'm hooked!   Looking forward to meeting "fishfight" again.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:09 AM

At this time of the year,  after water recedes at its lowest possible level., lots of snagged lures will be revealed and get un-snag for free. Many lures got snagged during past Salmon season, these hidden treasure can only be revealed once water recedes.  The Niagara city normally cuts down on the amount of water being release from Nov 1, to April 30. after tourist season slows down. With few exception on Christmas week ,and other special holidays, water level goes back higher again , so Niagara falls will be impressive the way it should be.

 

I was greedy trying to retrieve a crank bait out off a rock, that was when I slipped and one of my foot accidentally slip on the slippery  mossy rock, water went inside my boots,and my foot got wet. I was glad Corsara  brought a small plastic bag and a spare pair of socks, Then he suggested that I  improvised and use them, so I took my wet socks and shoe insole out to dry, then put his dry socks on first, wrapped my dry foot with the plastic bag before I put on my wet boot. My foot got so used to being dry and was warm, I could not tell the difference, and forgotten about my wet boot issue all the time and fished till 7pm at night.  I have never got wet in 20 years I fished there. Always some new experience as always. so bringing an extra pair of socks and small garbage bag is not a bad idea, or wear my waders on my next trip. The problem with wearing waders, our body gets very hot from having to hike back up the trail. Something new I learned from Corsara. Some items might be insignificant to bring at times to our fishing trip, but when we need them during an emergency situation, we definitely appreciate that we have them, 

 

I did not get any hits that morning, but I got 5 cleo spoon, one 8 inch long Rapala deep diving crankbait, few heavy 3 oz lead weights. One huge 3" x 2" long big treble hook (what was the guy trying to catch- a shark?)  and couple of swim-bait. I lost one jighead on grub that morning, and a wet boot to wear..... Not a bad trade off! Corsara also found few lures. 

 

From 6:30am-11:00am- We Fished Niagara river. Parking lot was already packed by 6:30am to my surprise. Probably due to rain days before, where most anglers only  came on sunday instead. Temp was 6 degrees with 9km wind. water was 5' visibility. Current level was higher then normal after we got there, water level only started to go down after 10am. But never at its lowest normal level during this time of the year, since water level of lake ontario is 3-4 ft higher this year . It should be consistent low level by now, It was also veterans day the day before, so the city released some water again to impress tourist. I lost two eastern tribe fishable spot this past salmon fishing season due to water being higher then normal.  

 

Roughly 30 anglers were already fishing, not a lot of good prime fishable choice spot left when we got there. Most were float fishing either with roe or streamers. I have to take turns timing to cast my heavy spoon further away, while the guy beside me was float fishing closer to the shoreline.  No tangle between us even ones. The guy witness Corsara lost his two fish and smiled during that  frenzy moment . Before they quit by 10am, they walked pass by Corsara to advice him to just take his time and not be overly excited next time. I wanted to give Corsara some advice at first, before he hooked up those two fish, then I told him I learned something new that day. Corsra was retrieving so fast, I was surprise both aggressive  fish wanted his crankbait,  Fish wanted his fast retrieve on the 6 inch yellow colored crankbait. Two main reason, the fish were not hooked properly, the crankbait hooks were not sharp , then the retrieve was just a touch too fast, two more seconds of short pause and it would have given the fish enough time to chum on the lure further and gotten  hook better. 

 

 

I only witness 5 total steelhead  landed as far as I could see. Many anglers left before 11am. while other new batch of anglers  came to replace them. Few more steelhead and a salmon surface right about 11am, just when we were about to leave. A new guy who just came to fished beside us, ( claimed to be a bass tournament angler,) said he also lost a fish, when we check his jig on grub, and I insisted that the hook was un-sharp, which I end up sharpening for him anyway, but I doubted that he was a tournament angler, not knowing how to test a hook for sharpness, and  fishing with un-sharp hooks. The proper way to test a hook sharpness is to slide the pointed area of the hook  on top of our Thumbnail, in a 45 degrees angle, with minimal force. If the hook does not slide, It is sharp, if it slides, it is not sharp enough. By mere touching the pointed surface with our finger, this is not sufficient to indicate the hook  sharpness.

 

Since we fished the prime time period, and did not land any fish. I knew the fish were not as aggressively biting that morning  stage, so time to regroup and fished elsewhere.

 

From 12:00-2:30pm- We went across the US border to pick up two of my ebay purchases that I had them shipped to a niagara falls US mail box address weeks before. Then we visited the Schoellopf Power Station (SPS)  and the New York Power Authority platform in lewiston for future potential fishing trip. Only 3 guys were fishing at NYPA, SPS was close for the season, but we were able to get down the elevator to enjoy the scenery and checked potential fishing spot. The current was super strong at NYPA. One guy said there were lots of salmon just two weeks ago. That was my original plan before I posted my request to find someone else to go ,and fish the salmon run. But with no visible fish to date, potential of snagging, It would be hard to control lure action was my observation, since current coming off the power plant were so strong, The guy who was float fishing, his float was going around in a circle and fast. I did not see any fish surface within the short time we were there. I also wanted to visit the free museum and go fish Olcott pier soon, since I heard trout started to be caught at the pier.  It was Free to fish US side during Veterans day! Unfortunately, we miss it by a day. To fish the NYPA platform, we need a long net extension due to the height of the ledge. But other shoreline areas close to the platform were fishable, with free Parking. NYPA platform will be close by Dec. 1, but not the shoreline area, having short well constructed stairway to walk down, and minimal hike. NY fishing license is US$10 a day or US$50 for the entire 365 days.

 

We had lunch at burger King  close to the outlet, using the special survey code on the back of the receipt. We got whopper , fries and coffee for $3. US BK whopper and fries, all seemed to be  bigger in size then our Canadian BK version. Many of US fast food burger joints have dollar menu and all were bigger in portion compared to what we have here in canada. McCafe Specialty coffee started on monday, sold on the canadian side, will be $1 only, 8 inch tall big cup. However,  US side McCafe does not taste as good as GTA MCdo Coffee. 

 

3:15-3:30pm- After 30mins of time going through the custom border crossing and inspection station, yet not having to pay any HST taxes on a US$50 purchase, we went to a Niagara boat launch to check the area out. Water there was somewhat murky to my surprise, two guys were fishing there, bottom bouncing with roe. I saw only one fish surfaced within that short period.

 

4:30-6:30pm., We went and fished  St Catherines area, water level has dropped at least one meter lower that its height during springtime,  one area was closed off until recently, the water level was overflowing all the way to the walkway back in spring. Water visibility was only couple feet that afternoon, hardly any wind. The current flow was not as strong as it should be. 15 anglers were fishing and I only saw one fish landed, but fish were surfacing in front of us at times, even few salmon were still there. One salmon, close to the dam area jumped 4 times to my surprise. but too far from our casting distance. A BC visitor to the area said he landed a 10lb trout two days ago bottom bouncing using three way swivel with white grub on jighead.. 

 

We have decided to stop fishing by 6:30pm to head back home, due to work the next day. If it was spring time, I would have head off to another area and fished for carp till 11pm , before my fishing day is really ....., really ......over.  Just when we left st Catherines area, rain started to come down. Our timing was just right to not having to be wet on a skunk day.

 

I told Corsara it was just a fact finding day during our first trip this season, to further familiarized water level height, I was not sure if other shoreline fish-able spot might also be submerge , so I was not confident enough to venture to another area of the river when it was still semi dark before daylight, and to feel the crowded fishing spot on a warm Sunday. It would be a waste of time to go to some spot, when lots of cars were already at the parking lot that morning, just to realize the known prime shoreline spot were already taken or submerge underwater. So we need to be there even earlier if we want those prime fish-able spot. 

 

Water temp was still at 55 degrees, trout fishing also gets better when water temp drops under 50 degrees. Since Corsara had two potential catch within that pre-existing condition, What else was my excuses for not catching one that day?    


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:31 PM

What a fantastic day!  Learned a ton from "fishfight", awesome guy that I'm glad I met.  Most knowledgeable angler I've ever met.  I'm new to this game (river fishing), in fact I've never in my life caught trout or salmon before (been targeting bass for the last while).  2nd cast---a 5lb steelhead, which I had for a few seconds and tried to reel it in like a bass---didn't work, it jumped a couple of times and off it went.  6th or 7th cast----a 10+ lb chinook.  Learning from my first mistake, didn't try to force it out.  But also didn't set the hook---at all.  Enough for it to present itself on the surface for a few seconds, and off it went.  All I can say---I'm hooked!   Looking forward to meeting "fishfight" again.


Thanks for giving us the update Corsara, sounds like you had a very interesting day out, had some action with new species of fish to you, found a few lures and found a new friend..... I'd call that a very successful day!
I hope you have many more!
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:58 PM

At this time of the year, lots of snagged lures will be revealed and get un-snag for free, after water recedes at its lowest possible level. Many lures got snagged during past Salmon season, these hidden treasure can only be revealed once water recedes.  The Niagara city normally cuts down on the amount of water being release from Nov 1, to April 30. after tourist season slows down. With few exception on Christmas week ,and other special holidays, water level goes back higher again , so Niagara falls will be impressive the way it should be.
 
I was greedy trying to retrieve a crank bait out off a rock, that was when I slipped and one of my foot accidentally slip on the slippery  mossy rock, water went inside my boots,and my foot got wet. I was glad Corsara  brought a small plastic bag and a spare pair of socks, Then he suggested that I  improvised and use them, so I took my wet socks and shoe insole out to dry, then put his dry socks on first, wrapped my dry foot with the plastic bag before I put on my wet boot. My foot got so used to being dry and was warm, I could not tell the difference, and forgotten about my wet boot issue all the time and fished till 7pm at night.  I have never got wet in 20 years I fished there. Always some new experience as always. so bringing an extra pair of socks and small garbage bag is not a bad idea, or wear my waders on my next trip. The problem with wearing waders, our body gets very hot from having to hike back up the trail. Something new I learned from Corsara. Some items might be insignificant to bring at times to our fishing trip, but when we need them during an emergency situation, we definitely appreciate that we have them, 
 
I did not get any hits that morning, but I got 5 cleo spoon, one 8 inch long Rapala deep diving crankbait, few heavy 3 oz lead weights. One huge 3" x 2" long big treble hook (what was the guy trying to catch- a shark?)  and couple of swim-bait. I lost one jighead on grub that morning, and a wet boot to wear..... Not a bad trade off! Corsara also found few lures. 
 
From 6:30am-11:00am- We Fished Niagara river. Parking lot was already packed by 6:30am to my surprise. Probably due to rain days before, where most anglers only  came on sunday instead. Temp was 6 degrees with 9km wind. water was 5' visibility. Current level was higher then normal after we got there, water level only started to go down after 10am. But never at its lowest normal level during this time of the year, since water level of lake ontario is 3-4 ft higher this year . It should be consistent low level by now, It was also veterans day the day before, so the city released some water again to impress tourist. I lost two eastern tribe fishable spot this past salmon fishing season due to water being higher then normal.  
 
Roughly 30 anglers were already fishing, not a lot of good prime fishable choices left when we got there. Most were float fishing either with roe or streamers. I have to take turns timing to cast my heavy spoon further away, while the guy beside me was float fishing closer to the shoreline.  No tangle between us even ones. The guy witness Corsara lost his two fish and smiled during that  frenzy moment . Before they quit by 10am, they walked pass by Corsara to advice him to just take his time and not be overly excited next time. I wanted to give Corsara some advice at first, when he hooked up those two fish, I told him I learned something new that day. Corsra was retrieving so fast, I was surprise both aggressive  fish wanted his crankbait,  Fish wanted his fast retrieve on the 6 inch yellow colored crankbait. Two main reason, the fish were not hooked properly, the crankbait hooks were not sharp , then the retrieve was just a touch too fast, two more seconds of short pause and it would have given the fish enough time to chum on the lure further and gotten  hook better. 
 
 
I only witness 5 total steelhead  landed as far as I could see. Many anglers left before 11am. while other new batch of anglers  came to replace them. Few more steelhead and a salmon surface right about 11am, just when we were about to leave. A new guy who just came to fished beside us, ( claimed to be a bass tournament angler,) said he also lost a fish, when we check his jig on grub, and I insisted that the hook was un-sharp, which I end up sharpening for him anyway, but I doubted that he was a tournament angler, not knowing how to test a hook for sharpness, and  fishing with un-sharp hooks. The proper way to test a hook sharpness is to slide the pointed area of the hook  on top of our Thumbnail, in a 45 degrees angle, with minimal force. If the hook does not slide, It is sharp, if it slides, it is not sharp enough. By mere touching the pointed surface with our finger, this is not sufficient to indicate the hook  sharpness.
 
Since we fished the prime time period, and did not land any fish. I knew the fish were not as aggressively biting that morning  stage, so time to regroup and fished elsewhere.
 
From 12:00-2:30pm- We went across the US border to pick up two of my ebay purchases that I had them shipped to a niagara falls US mail box address weeks before. Then we visited the Schoellopf Power Station  and the New York Power Authority platform in lewiston for future potential fishing trip. Only 3 guys were fishing at NYPA, SPS was close for the season, but we were able to get down the elevator to enjoy the scenery and checked potential fishing spot. The current was super strong at NYPA. One guy said there were lots of salmon just two weeks ago. That was my original plan weeks ago, to find someone to fish there. With no visible fish, potential of snag It would be hard to control lure action was my observation, since current coming off the plant were too strong, The guy who was float fishing, his float was going around in a circle and fast. I did not see any fish surface within the short time we were there. I also wanted to visit the free museum and go fish Olcott pier soon, since I heard trout started to be caught at the pier.  It was Free to fish US side during Veterans day! Unfortunately, we miss it by a day. To fish the NYPA platform, we need a long net extension due to the height of the ledge. But other shoreline areas close to the platform were fishable, with free Parking. NYPA platform will be close by Dec. 1, but not the shoreline area, having short well constructed stairway to walk down.
 
We had lunch at burger King  close to the outlet, using the special survey code on the back of the receipt. We got whopper , fries and coffee for $3. US BK whopper and fries seems to be  bigger in size then our Canadian version. Many of US fast food burgur joints have dollar menu and all were bigger in portion compared to what we have here in canada. McCafe Specialty coffee starting today on the canadian side is $1 only, 8 inch tall big cup.  US side McCafe does not taste as good as GTA MCdo Coffee. 
 
3:15-3:30pm- After 30mins of time going through the custom border crossing and inspection station, yet not having to pay any HST taxes on a US$50 purchase, we went to a Niagara boat launch to check the area out. Water there was somewhat murky to my surprise, two guys were fishing there, bottom bouncing with roe. I saw only one fish surfaced within that short period.
 
4:30-6:30pm., We went and fished  St Catherines area, water level has dropped at least one meter lower that its height during springtime,  one area was closed off until recently, the water level was overflowing all the way to the walkway back in spring. Water visibility was only couple feet that afternoon, hardly any wind. The current flow was not as strong as it should be. 15 anglers were fishing and I only saw one fish landed, but fish were surfacing in front of us at times, even few salmon were still there. One salmon, close to the dam area jumped 4 times to my surprise. but too far from our casting distance. A BC visitor to the area said he landed a 10lb trout two days ago bottom bouncing using three way swivel with white grub on jighead.. 
 
We have decided to stop fishing by 6:30pm to head back home, due to work the next day. If it was spring time, I would have head off to another area and fished for carp till 11pm , before my fishing day is really ....., really ......over.  Just when we left st Catherines area, rain started to come down. Our timing was just right to not having to be wet on a skunk day.
 
I told Corsara it was just a fact finding day during our first trip this season, to further familiarized water level height, I was not sure if other shoreline fish-able spot might also be submerge , so I was not confident enough to venture to another area of the river when it was still semi dark before daylight, and to feel the crowded fishing spot on a warm Sunday. It would be a waste of time to go to some spot, when lots of cars were already at the parking lot that morning, just to realize the known prime shoreline spot were already taken or submerge underwater. So we need to be there even earlier if we want those prime fish-able spot. 
 
Water temp was still at 55 degrees, trout fishing also gets better when water temp drops under 50 degrees. Since Corsara had two potential catch within that pre-existing condition, What else was my excuses for not catching one that day?


What an awesome update/article Joshua with a lot of tips and local knowledge I had no idea about.

It certainly sounds like you both had a fun day, with some action, some finds and some laughs no doubt when you got a wet foot. Also being able to go check out a few spots on the other side of the river is probably something I probably wouldn't have done but makes a lot of sense especially when you are going over anyway.

I appreciate you sharing your day with us at OFF & hopefully others will get a lot out of it too.

I have my own story about getting wet after a mishap on a river, I was a little bit worse off than you, I was soaked from the waist down. It was early in the year & there was still snow on the ground, I had a change of clothes with me but they were 300 yards away in the car.
It was a comedy of errors fishing with another fellow that talked me into using a canoe so that I didnt need to walk much....
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:10 PM

This was my PM email to Ronnie TO, I hope it helps others as well:

 

Never leave items visible in the car during a fishing time, Niagara fishing area is prone to car vandalism in the past. So I bring extra collapsible fishing rod with reel as a back up equipment, hidden in the trunk space.just in case something goes wrong with my main fishing equipment, to not ruin my long driving fishing trip . During past salmon season fishing at a pier, one fellow broke his long rod after fighting with a salmon within the first 10 minute of his arrival, and curse the **** word 10 times or more, non stop, his other two friend landed 5 more fish within that half an hour of fishing frenzy. Funny was he landed another fish using his half broken rod section.   

 

Google fishing location, Anglers Atlas is one I used that helped my other US fishing trip, also email US local fishing board, etc.many were helpful when I inquired. Plan and research before you go across. I always fish in USA state all the way to Florida on my vacation, occasionally stop along the way on specific location if necessary, but all planned trip. I do decent and catch fish, but I do tons of research for potential spot, otherwise, a big waste of time wetting my line blindly. Check Water clarity issue after a rainfall, then wind direction, they are all important for trout fishing. Olcott pier or  Oak orchard pier also good fishing now and no hiking. North windy conditions are bad to these areas. Salmon river, Syracuse, was the best salmon and trout fishing spot in USA, but it gets crowded. Rochester have some good fishing spot as well. Some US state allow anglers to fish on their river dam. Burt's dam near lockport NY, is one of them, but anglers fishing close to one another. At Rochester high fall downtown is another one. 

 

Detroit and Frankenmuth, have excellent Museum and history, one of our best place to travel so far, safe to stay, and inexpensive branded motel, near Henry ford musuem, Dearborn MI. For Bank of america card holder,  Free museum entrance on every first weekend of the month. I will use AirBnB this time to stay. even cheaper.  Detroit river has some good shore spot for walleye fishing. Easy to apply for a CC at BOM, I believe BOM has a TOronto branch. The advantage of having  USA CREDIT CARD, and Us mailbox address, i can punch in the zipcode when I get gas, I also want to establish some credit history, in case I want to buy a inexpensive property in Florida. some condo or houses, cost only under $100,000. RBC here has US credit card , so we can apply for a  US credit card for establishing US credit history, RBC has branches in florida, but the US Credit card has a minimal yearly fee. 

 

I have flexible work hours, so I plan my trip around fishing condition in buffalo, window shopping with my wife is always the major event. I never go across black Friday, chaos human traffic condition over there and the border crossing can be up to two hours wait. We are normally at the border before 8am avoiding the change of the custom guard time ,which creates some more delay.  It is my wife birthday month, free to dine in many restaurant in US states. I am going with Corsara again to fish niagara when conditions permits. Then I will  go again with my wife after the black friday week sale. My wife and I will probably stay overnight this time. Traders Joe, specialty food store is one of her favorite place to shop. For me it is just Dollar tree! I buy lots of craft material from dollar store, such as nail polish, glue, yarn material, etc... to improvised to tie streamers. Burlington and TJmaxx, Ollies, harbour freight, DicKs sporting and Big lot are all stores we normally go to look, lots of digging around just to find a deal! . Ollies bargain outlet has some fishing stuff during the season.BLVD mall area are way cheaper than Galleria Mall, so we avoid Galleria mall stores all the time. Too pricey for us. Except another Ollies bargain outlet , Cabelas and Dicks sporting store(just to browse these two), Michaels and Burlington coat factory, all near Galleria Mall. Ollies send me 15% coupon via email all the time, they do  have good deal stuff. Michaels craft store has 40% off coupons, I buy the beads,acrylic paint, feathers, yarn, and shoe goo flexible glue, the best all round glue Imo. Michael's craft CA store here are way too expensive. 

 

If you buy truck accessories, then  get them installed across the border, custom will never know what was added to your truck. I buy tires there installed if I need them. The more people inside your car when going across, the more import allowance, and less likely Custom charge HST. They are actually very lenient. just avoid buying electronics, you will be taxed if you buy above your import allowance. The most I spent going by myself ,was under $100 for 6 hrs across and never got charge HST taxes, especially when I say I went over to fish. Many male Custom officer  on both borders, loves fishing. A US custom officer wanted to see my improvised lure once and asked me where to fish. In spite of long line up of cars waiting behind me, he took his time to chat about fishing.  Many officer are fed up of hearing Torontonians, especially new Immigrant going across to just shop , So when I say I am going fishing or bowling or visit museum ,they get to hear something different, I am also a good bowler, cost less then a Dollar per game to Bowl in most US states. I bought a bowling ball once,costing $80 coming across and declared it, The custom officer baffled and said..........." A BOWLING BALL?" Just last Feb winter months, I bought a used great deal Tennis ball machine off Craiglist buffalo. No taxed even if it was $120US .They cost close to $1000 here. Extremely hard to find used in GTA. Many wanted them, the lowest price I saw was around $350 and gone the same morning it was posted off Kijiji.

 

I am in a hunt for a new or used Fishfinder with Chirp, sonar and downscan imaging features. no hurry to use till spring, but I open up my buying pick up location including NY ,Ohio, PA and Mi neighboring state. Whatever savings I can get , I will spend them on my wife , for being with me to go across to get them. 

 

Military naval park in buffalo is impressive, Two WW2 battle ship plus a small submarine, a 3 hour or more to enjoy it . Get Groupon coupons for excellent deal at $13 for two. NIagara CA side have special hotel deals now, at US$49 wyndham hotel stay with some extra dinner voucher coupon .  Watch out for niagara CA side extra hidden tourist fees, unknowing to most tourist, the fees exist on many niagara tourist retail establishment , restaurant and hotels, they just illegally pocket the money. The fees range from 4-8% extra, hotel parking there is $10-15 per day. Call to inquire if they charge and tourist Niagara restoration fees or you wish to decline to pay it or  go elsewhere  that do not charge the fees. Upper niagara shore fishing spot, with no hike, close to peace bridge are known for walleye,........ shoreline accessible.

 

There is a company in Mississuaga called Crossborder pickup, they pick up package across the border for $9 per package plus whatever HSt on top. You still have to pay your US address mailbox fee. Other extra fees you need to pay, if delivered to your home address.

 

My wife and I go across from 6 to 10 times a year. In 25 years of shopping across the border, we got charge HST only twice.  I buy many things I need from ebay, amazon US , Walmart on line, harbour freight ,etc  But I plan my trip ahead all the time. Car parts from autozone or ebay , Amazon.com, walmart.com. can be cheaper. I always do comparative shopping. Even with the currency exchange, every prices here have been getting higher.  I ship many of my online purchases to the motel where I will be staying, very safe to do that, since many of their guest were businessman, so the motel are used to receiving packages.  this will ensure the motel gets my business in return. No need the US mailbox address.  

 

I used the American Mailbox at 265 main street niagara falls  14303 , just 5 minutes across rainbow bridge, they charges $4 per package(price just went up), and no time limit. I used the address to acquire Bank of america credit card and Sam's club card. Chris Chirello is the owner, a one man operation. I used them in years. Another Mailbox company is across lewiston bridge, the mailbox and crossing the bridge gets the  busiest among the three bridge or other mailbox address. They are all good companies and get busier this time of the year. 

 

Hope my info help others!  Joshua


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