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#272575 Shore Fishing around Hamilton/ Burlington area

Posted by chalkhorse on 11 June 2013 - 03:44 PM in General Fishing Discussion

I'm planning a fathers day fishing trip for Sunday.  I hope we don't get skunked, lol. We're in Burlington but I wouldn't mind driving somewhere for up to an hour to find a nice spot submerged in nature.  Any ideas?  Laura 

mountsberg or rockwood, but they will be crazy packed... hilton falls will be less packed and only about a half hour out of town




#271440 tobermory and such

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 04:57 PM in General Fishing Discussion

well, you are on the huron side, albeit a bit north, so it will heat up sooner and warmer than the georgian bay side.

 

we were swimming about 5 km south of you last weekend at dorcas bay.

 

but it is still early, so i'd go slow.

 

i'm really finding that rich_ace_g understands piking, especially early season, so i'd pm him if i were you... 




#271432 tobermory and such

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 02:43 PM in General Fishing Discussion

indian harbour.

 

i'd be willing to to bet that there are early season giant pike there...




#271183 tobermory and such

Posted by chalkhorse on 22 May 2013 - 04:39 PM in General Fishing Discussion

hit tobermory with a bunch of young 'uns last weekend.., (well, 15 year olds... which is darn young from my perspective)

 

i have noticed a lack of tobermory fishing data in general online, so here's my take.

 

caught a pike and a bunch of out of season bass around the 3 to 4 pound range.

 

from what i gather talking to divers, there are very few pike around big tub harbour... just whitefish

 

the "other" shipwrecks, across the bay, has some nice size ones.

 

we fished cameron lake and cyprus lake.  both were loaded with bass, though we ACTUALLY were targeting walleye and pike.

 

come evening, the surface actions was quite good on the little shallow bays.

 

definitely worth a post june foray...

 

 




#271249 tobermory and such

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 02:48 PM in General Fishing Discussion

canoe or kayak, i'd be using deerhairs and poppers with a floating line in the shallows at sunrise and sundown for bass, and streamers for pike.  it's still early in the season and the huge pike'll be cruising the shallows to metabolise, ie - 55 - 60 degree water...  that's assuming you are on the georgian bay side...




#272494 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 10 June 2013 - 08:58 AM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

there is debate over "landing

 

I don't think I'd put a single on when going for pike, bass, salmon or walleye etc...

But the one situation I have thought would be beneficial is when targeting small resident trout.

Trout are temperamental when out of the water too long, also, when riverfishing, the current/retrieve sets the hook anyway.

I will definitely keep the trebles on my trolling baits, as well as my topwater bass lures.

Hook-up percentages are already slim on topwater smallies, no way I'm going to voluntarily give anymore advantage to those shaky rascals.

there is debate over landing ratios with single hooks.  although the hookup percentage is supposed to be lower (i haven't seen that yet in my little experiment,) the landing ratios are supposed to be higher with a single secure point of hookup (which i haven't noticed yet, either, due to my small sampling so far (maybe thirty fish)) 




#272464 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 09 June 2013 - 10:04 AM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

I'm also in the process of replacing trebles with singles on crankbaits such as Big 'O's and Hot n' Tot. I'm just replacing the rear hooks because I think removing a treble under the belly of the 'bait' will change the action. These lures have slit rings so I don't need to use Siwash hooks. What type and general size of hook would you recommend?

thx

i'm still a little early into this, but bass season is almost upon us, so i promise to get back to you on this...  (was piking yesterday at mountsberg, and pulled in a five out of season pound largemouth. i usually get pound to pound and a halfers at mountsberg. that was from a jitterbug with a couple carlisle hooks attached with two slit o rings each, to compensate for the hook offset) 

i am finding i am going a little larger when i pop in the single, and with a carlisle or other long shanked hook, but it's more from a gut feeling than anything quasiscientific yet.

 




#271481 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 25 May 2013 - 07:31 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

You can always snap two sides of the barbless treble should still work


I hadn't even thought of that... great idea...



#272425 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 08 June 2013 - 08:39 AM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

well, here's my take. thanks everyone for their input.  I get less success ratios with surface lures using single hooks, but with spinners, crankbaits, rapalas and buzzbaits , it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference. i haven't been using spoons as of late, so the jury is still out on that one...




#272463 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 09 June 2013 - 09:52 AM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

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JCVD himself would encourage the use of singles... Maybe not barbless tho.

And he is heavily involved in the bloodsport.

ha! jvcd 2008 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130988/  one of my favourite off beat movies...




#271348 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 09:34 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

you will have better hookups when the gap of the hook is wider than the profile of the lure,especially the front hook. this comes from muskie fishing where we bend the front treble to a "T" instead of an even 120 degrees, on round or flat bottom lures. that way the hook protrudes beyond the sides of the lure when the hook lays back on the set. im sure this applies to your situation as well.
  there was i time when i fully believed a single siwash was getting better  hookups on my jigging spoons for walleye while ice fishing. i was finding  when you set on that single point, a little farther in from the lip,( the siwash, being wider gapped than the appropriate treb)` you get better connected and the hook hit home. ive kind of shied away from this lately, but a lot if my buckshot spoons still have the singles on it. i was not using singles to inflict less damage, it was just to acheive better hookups. i didnt notice any major difference in damage between one barbed treble or a single hook. most salmon trolling spoons have just a single siwash hook.
 i will agree sometimes the three trebles on a larger stickbait can be a pain.
 ive mentioned the "siwash" hooks a couple times and ive found they seem to be the way to go . the ones in the pic are a bit large for the bait. try to find a shorter shanked brand, similar in size to the full width of the treble that came on the lure. they come with the eye partially open so its easy to put them on the splitrings, and the barbs bend down easy enough.

Thanks.



#271284 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 06:11 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

Yeah, but who really hasn't had to rip flesh removing trebles from a fish's throat? I am thinking with single hooks, its a single push downward.



#271255 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 04:00 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

okay. i keep telling myself i am going to do this. i release 98 % of my fish.  i am tired of having to use pliers on pike and "working" my hooks out of bass.  i already file the barbs off my trebles on lures.

has anybody gone that extra step and put single hooks on their lures?

 

i can see success on spinners, but how about rapalas?  or spoons?  or, and this is where my interest mostly lies, surface lures?

 

i'm too chicken (poop (ha!  beat the censors to it)) to go this extra step without someone else leading the way...

 

anybody have any experiences in this department?

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#271302 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 06:55 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

There are reasons some sections of water are single barbless..its proven a single barbless hook will cause less damage.


Well, let the experiment begin... I'll let folks know... I have my surface doubts, but I'm willing to give it a shot...



#271297 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 06:50 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

Kudos...going single is a great initiative...and easier to dislodge...better for the fish.
I have never considered the pursuit of the art of angling a "blood sport"
cc


Ever fished Bronte around the qew in salmon season? Yikes! ;)



#271304 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 07:02 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

I've used single barbless mepps,panther martins before..but unfortunatly havnt had much luck with the fish to test it out, ive only tried twice..lol


That's certainly a start... I have been filing my barbs, but I might pick up some cool other options this weekend at sail.



#271331 replacing treble hooks with single hooks

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 08:20 PM in Fishing Gear Talk and DIY Corner

some baits will run different with the hooks changed. the siwash hooks on those rapalas pictured are a lot bigger than standard hooks and can do some damage too


I just picked that pic from the net... I tend to go under size, rather than oversize...



#272431 Fish in the 416

Posted by chalkhorse on 08 June 2013 - 12:18 PM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

I 100% agree with not sharing spots. Having lived outside of ontario for 8 yrs and returning home, I find myself consistently getting upset with what I see. I constantly find the white bucket brigade fishing in areas where they were no where to be found before, places where only locals used to know about. I've gone to spots that were once pristine, only to find litter everywhere, fishing line all over the place, and general damage to the surrounding area.
 
I personally would support the entire sport fishery in Ontario going to 100% c&r for 10yrs. We could rebuild the fishery quickly, and eliminate these people who will keep everything and treat our beautiful fishery as nothing more that a resource to be pillaged. I know most aren't in line with my thinking that we should have a 0 limit, but I don't care. Like everything, once the fish are gone they will not come back, and some slugs will stock fish that have no business being in our waters, because they just ust don't care about our beautiful country and its amazing resources.


Very well said!



#272428 Fish in the 416

Posted by chalkhorse on 08 June 2013 - 10:01 AM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

I understand the need to be discreet when talking about fishing spots, but surely there must be a limit. If you post that Grenadier pond is a spot for carp, I don't think you are letting any big secret out. Likewise Angus and a few more spots for 'certain other fish'. "Everybody" knows about those spots anyway. 

i think conservation areas, provincial and national parks the "paid" ones, are a given when it comes to being able to mention names.  it keeps the sport thriving, helps with conservation budgets and concentrates people in a region that is more geared to handle an influx of people... ie, washrooms, garbages, staff, etc.




#271254 Where to fish near Toronto

Posted by chalkhorse on 23 May 2013 - 03:20 PM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

howdy...

 

i did a trip to alaska and the yukon once. best salmon and piking i've ever done, but you really need to liven up those grayling.  :)

 

i don't mind giving out my honeyholes to anyone that isn't going to trash 'em up.  pm me and let me know what you are expecting...

 

unfortunately, with the exception of salmon and the occasional pike, the further the drive from toronto, the bigger the fish.

 

not a hard and fast rule, but a good general one to consider...




#271411 secret quarry fishing...

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 01:04 PM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

i've been swimming in the quarries by the schneiders sign on the 401 betwixt morriston and cambridge, but not fishing... might venture out by cover of darkness this summer...

 




#271380 secret quarry fishing...

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 09:18 AM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

okay... who just got excited?




#271381 secret quarry fishing...

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 09:25 AM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

this is one post where i feel the actual names of places should be only pm'ed, but what kind of success has anyone had "sneaking" into private abandoned quarries?




#271416 secret quarry fishing...

Posted by chalkhorse on 24 May 2013 - 01:13 PM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

speaking of which, has this forum ever tried to put together a pub night?




#271482 secret quarry fishing...

Posted by chalkhorse on 25 May 2013 - 07:33 PM in GTA Urban Shore Fishing

I think orangeville Has some interesting possibilities as well