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[NaturehasIT]

Wow u guys could seriously argue for nothing here. I like staying away from unwanted gaffe. I let the gears do the talking in the water not on the computers. Really foolish to argue who is right and who is wrong. Just let it go and done with.                

[buck]

I didn't think I was arguing I thought this was a discussion

[DILLIGAF?!]

Nothing but friendly "word skirmish" lol. if there's no argument...it could be a pretty boring winter.

[DILLIGAF?!]

both have a motor, steering wheel, 4 wheels, perform the same function....it is a good comparison

you just described what I was trying to point out. all pins function the same. from $35 - $1000 centerpins.

[iJay]

[CanadianAngler87]

If I wanted a drag...I'd use my spinning reel. Centerpins should be drag free IMO

Drag free yes 99% of the time but having the option to switch a drag on could be nice. If your gonna spend alot of money on a pin may aswell get a drag on it. Its like buying a new car, for 350 I could have a normal car but if I could have car with power door locks for the same price why wouldnt I?

[ChasinTails]

Wow u guys could seriously argue for nothing here. I like staying away from unwanted gaffe. I let the gears do the talking in the water not on the computers. Really foolish to argue who is right and who is wrong. Just let it go and done with.                

just some friendly banter to keep us entertained 

Nothing but friendly "word skirmish" lol. if there's no argument...it could be a pretty boring winter.

ya, i didn't mean to sound obnoxious sorry if i did

 

you just described what I was trying to point out. all pins function the same. from $35 - $1000 centerpins.

thats why i was truing to get at you know like both drive you places=same thing just brand and all that 

[buck]

you just described what I was trying to point out. all pins function the same. from $35 - $1000 centerpins.

 

you're right, it's a spool on a pin that hold line...that's the back function....the more important function is the front function meaning proper drift or proper presentation, that requires a good start up, you simply won't get a $35 reel with a good start up, but i'm not saying that a $200 reel is crappy...everybody should live within their means and be proud of what they have.....but I'm sorry a $35 reel? come on now lets get reel oops real lol

[iJay]

CP+drag = Flyreel no?

[BowSlayer]

fly reel is a very simple system, it is a one way clutch, meaning the spool wouldn't spin freely, a cp with a drag it spins one way and drag the other way.

[LordMykiss]

but i think were veering greatly away from the OP and think we should get back on track 

some one necromanced this  3 year old thread, the OP dealt with it already, over 2 years ago. most people can't fish with their cp now and the site has been boring and quiet and seem to want to make it lively. some people can't live without conflict.

 

as far as ferrari vs honda, when it comes to accident prevention it is a lot easier with a high torque car than a slow car, if you have to lets say make a left turn with a ferrai as cars are coming is a lot different than a honda, by the time honda reaches x speed the oncoming car can T bone you, a ferrari would of been over the line few seconds before that. but going speed limit on the same highway at 100 they are exactly same. basically using high end cp or low end cp on frogwater vs fast water.

 

as far as high end vs low end these are my points i have learnd from 13 years of fishing with a cp,

 

mid High end $400-800

Pros:

-sturdy.

-Tight tolerance.

-won't leave room for line to get caught behind the back plate.

-startup in frogwater/slower water for maximum presentation.

-smoothness for maximum presentation

-needs to be bought once and lasts decades if taken care of properly.

-generally more comfortable in hand.

-don't need to be paid attention to as you fish and you can concentrate more on your float, rod tip and presentation instead of worrying about what the reels is doing.

-better materials that are more durable.

-better quality control.

 

 

Cons:

-expensive for most non avid CP fisherman that not sure about cping.

-if it is your first reel and you don't like the type of fishing will not be a good investment.

 

 

Low end $30-200

Pros:

-cheap.

-readily available.

-does the job in faster waters.

-good investment for people that are not sure if they want to stick to that style of fishing.

 

 

Cons:

-cheap Chinese material with fancy colour that were marked up 500+%.

-manually has to be started in some water conditions, even in some medium  condition, and definitely in slow conditions.

-have to be paid attention to it make sure it is performing properly, and that takes away from watching the float.

-can cause your cast/float to come out of the right drift due to spool not turning.

-known for the line to get caught behind back plate and snap, due to loose tolerance.

-it needs/ends up being replaced 1-2 times life time excluding the original reel, as the owner's standards change, costing more than price of a single mid high end reel within the same time.

-wobbly.

-feels cheap in hands.

-usually very light due to cheap materials.

-mass produced and minimal quality controlled.

 

 

now if you can justifying spending 200 dollars on a 500+% marked up Ukrainian reel with slightly better bearings, mind you, 2 stainless bearing, not German, not Japanese, not marine grade, NOT even abec(does not meet the standard) just good old standard bearing and manually starting your reel with your finger, and you think it was a good logical purchase and you were smart for not spending extra 100 on an islander, then you prove the point why i have given up giving advice about cp reels and their mechanics on this site. i do see the irony in this post. but it is more for the new people that might see this thread.

[ChasinTails]

it wasn't me who resurrected the thread btw 

[Captain Barty]

 i have given up giving advice about cp reels and their mechanics on this site.

 

Perfect.

[LordMykiss]

it wasn't me who resurrected the thread btw 

my mistake you are right. you are first person to answer it. i will edit my post.

[ChasinTails]

not the first for that either 

[LordMykiss]

Perfect.

my pleasure!

[CanadianAngler87]

fly reel is a very simple system, it is a one way clutch, meaning the spool wouldn't spin freely, a cp with a drag it spins one way and drag the other way.

I was under the assumption a cp with a drag could be switched on or off like a clicker. If there wasnt a choice of having it on or off and it was always on than that would suck. Id like to have to option to fight a fish free spool or with a drag.

[LordMykiss]

I was under the assumption a cp with a drag could be switched on or off like a clicker. If there wasnt a choice of having it on or off and it was always on than that would suck. Id like to have to option to fight a fish free spool or with a drag.

i think the canada drifter you can turn the knob to different levels. same with the A/S. as in at the most loose no drag, at the tightest max drag. don't quote me on this though. email the maker of canada drifter. there is also a clicker/knob type drag that you have to manually use vs it is preset.

[ChasinTails]

I was under the assumption a cp with a drag could be switched on or off like a clicker. If there wasnt a choice of having it on or off and it was always on than that would suck. Id like to have to option to fight a fish free spool or with a drag.

the dr2 has a drag thats like a bait caster once you turn it on when its on you use the wheel to tighten or loosen but when you turn it off it disengages it 

[BowSlayer]

i was saying a fly reel has a one way clutch not a cp with a drag, that you can turn on or off.