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#1 Agetupkkiddan

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

Hi there, 

So last year was my buddy and I's first year kayak fishing - we had lots of fun at smaller lakes around the GTA and near Guelph and such.

I've taken my kayak out around the shore on lake Ontario (oakville area) and was curious if it's possible to catch fish without going really far into the lake.

I'm not a great fisherman, so that might be a dumb question - I'm not sure if it's too cold for warmer species, or if there isn't enough cover... but it's such a massive body of water, I was wondering if we could fish for perch or something without going so far in that it becomes a little riskier...

 

any thoughts or input is greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks!

 


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#2 DitchWizard

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

further out sometimes you need something to get deeper. like down riggers or leadcore. Lots of fish in lake O, I wouldn't suggest going to far from shore unless you have a sea kayak or are very experienced. Storms can brew up very fast on the great lakes and posses a severe risk to life in the case of small crafts.  


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 03:08 PM

At the right time of year salmonid species can caught near rivermouths.
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 04:07 PM

Of course but be careful venturing out - she can whip up some pretty large waves. Kayakers got out lots - safety first.
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Posted 22 June 2014 - 05:47 PM

Puttering around a km or two off shore is safe enough to do in paddle craft.  Just keep an eye on the weather of course.  When things start to look ugly, don't wait around.

 

 As TC said, in the area around river mouths is a good place to try.  Trout in the spring, salmon late summer - fall if you want to take on some big game.  Can't help you on perch bite unfortunately.

 

The lake stays cool in the summer.  On the west shore, the water temp near shore was still in the mid 60s August last year... but there are spots that produce bass and pike fishing.  Try launching from Bay Front Park in Hamilton and fish the channel and bays.


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#6 FrequentFlyer

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:10 PM

Lake O Kayaking is definitely possible, there was a day we were out salmon fishing last August and the water was literally glass all day long from first light to evening, the only wave action came from passing boats, it was quite surreal.  the most important thing about fishing lake ontario, pay attention to the wind forcasts and when new fronts are coming or going.  winds blowing off the shore won't create big enough wave to worry too much about, its when they're blowing into the shore that you have to worry

 

heres a pic from that day, this was first thing in the morning and it only got calmer as the day went on

 

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#7 Agetupkkiddan

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:01 PM

Thanks for all the feedback!

 

So, river mouths, bay front park hamilton - i'll jot these down - thanks!

 

To be clear, I really don't want to go far in at all!

I literally live 3 mins from the lake so I'm curious if I could in for a small paddle/ dip the line in... and actually catch anything?

 

Are there any species of fish that would be found kayaking off the shore by Oakville or I suppose anywhere along the GTA shoreline... or am I limited to paddling out far and fishing deep?


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:53 PM

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Yes sir, Oavkille is a great place to fish along the lake shore.  It just depends on the time of year and what's in season.  Smallies are coming up.  Fish them around the break walls of marinas and other shore structures that may be in your area.


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:54 PM

spring and fall will offer your best chances at shallow water fishing, the water temps are cooler and fish won't be so deep, come august the salmon and steelhead move in close to shore for their spawning runs so you should be able to pick them off quite easily 500 yards off shore


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#10 Agetupkkiddan

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 11:02 PM

Hey that's exciting! 

I spent so much time waiting for the weekends last year to drive 20 mins north to fish other lakes, but what a waste it would be to not take advantage of some fishing during the week when theres a giant one just down the road!

 

Thanks folks! 


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 11:48 PM

As a bare minimum, bookmark these Lake Ontario marine forecasts and read them before planning an outing:

 

http://weather.noaa....kbuf.glf.lo.txt

http://weather.gc.ca...11&siteID=08200

 

One is U.S. the other is Canadian. 

 

Here is a page where you can click on buoys to read current wind and wave reports, and also see wind reports from land sites: http://weather.gc.ca...8200&stationID=

 

You may also wish to invest in a weather radio if you're really going to venture out into the lake. I've never used one, but from my understanding they provide up to date information. I think weathermen can only truly know what's going to happen about 20 minutes in advance, the rest is guesswork based on modelling. So keep that in mind, and make sure you are a very strong paddler and excellent swimmer. 

 

As was already mentioned, at the right times of year, you won't need to venture out, the fish will come to you. Salmon, steelhead and browns will be very much accessible from a kayak. Most anglers will be either casting from piers, or out in the lake fishing off boats. So a kayak will actually put you on prime, under fished waters. Out of reach from the piers, yet still very close to shore. 

 

As far as heading out now, you can catch pike and bass, as well as sheephead, carp and other species. Some trout will also be cruising along the shorelines. Lots of fish to be had year round, with hot salmon and trout action in the spawning months. 


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:52 AM

marine radio and tune in to the coast guard weather station, best source around


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 12:29 AM

No reason not to do it with a bit of caution and common sense. You are so close to the water you can just wait for the best day's. I was fishing a lake huron trib right on tho open lake today with a kayak, I didn't go to far into the lake but is was totally calm all day long.
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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:20 AM

Yes, some of the jetties along marinas can have good Smallmouth fishing, as well as some Freshwater Drum. Lately, the Freshwater Drum bite has shifted to an evening bite. There is always some kind of panfish along the jetty...be it sunfish, rockbass or perch...especially if you can find a calm area along the jetty. I've seen the odd white bass or white perch as well, especially around the Bronte area.

 

In the spring and fall, you can catch salmon in under 30 feet of water along the shoreline, especially around the mouth of Bronte.

 

From what Michael tells me, you can still catch salmon shallow in the summer...but it is an EARLY bite. No personal experience, so take that with a grain of salt. If you like to just go for a morning paddle and troll a line while you're at it, not a bad thing to find out.

 

When they are shallow, you can get them by flatlining salmon spoons, Rapala J-13, Lyman's...etc. If you need to go a little deeper, you can use dipsy divers or torpedos.

 

For wind forecast, you can use Windfinder too. It'll automatically show a map of Europe, but you can scroll to Southern Ontario area and you'll see lots of stations.

 

http://www.windfinder.com/

 

Wind out of the north is the best. You can fish a north wind even up to 15km/h on some days. East and west winds, if sustained for a few days, should be avoided. South wind is usually a no-no, unless it is a recent 5km/h event.

 

Watch out for the convection phenomenon, especially in the spring and early summer. This convection is caused by heating of the land by the sun when the lake is still cold. Land heats up faster than the lake in the spring. The warm air rises over land, and cold air rushes in to replace the warm air that has risen. You'll feel a noticably cold wind coming onshore. Even though the forecast may predict a north wind, you may still see 2-3 foot waves coming onshore due to this convection. This is very evident in the spring in late afternoons. In the fall, especially late fall, the reverse happens. The land cools faster than the lake. You tend to get more calmer days in the fall due to this. It can be flat calm nearshore in the fall in the late afternoons.

 

If you are considering fishing early spring and late fall, when water can be close to the freezing mark, I would suggest a dry suit in case you flip over. Otherwise, a wet suit is OK for late spring and early fall. In the summer, you probably won't mind a cooling dip. If you already have a survival suit from icefishing, then that could be used as well...although it won't prevent hypothermia as well as a dry suit.

 

If you plan to go during low light hours (dawn, dusk or in the dark), navigation lights on a tall pole (maybe 24" high) is a good idea. You are sitting real low on the water. A flashlight, although legal, may not be enough. If there are some 1-2 foot swells, you could very well disappear in the bottom of the trough often. Boaters may not be able to see you even if they sit higher than you. Fixing a flashlight on a broom stick may not cut it since that light is uni-directional. You want some kind of dome light that can be seen from 360 degrees.

 

VHF radio is always recommended. Did I tell you that time our boat broke down 7 miles from Honolulu, without a working radio, drifting eastward toward Japan, while taking on water from a part that had corroded and fallen off the stern of the boat? Oh...speaking of which, a cell phone in a dry bag is also recommended in case your VHF radio broke down...which was what saved our sorry ass from drifting toward Japan then sinking in the middle of the Pacific. 7 miles...we were literally at the edge of cell phone coverage...our call to 911 and then the coast guards were cutting in and out.


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#15 Agetupkkiddan

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 10:31 PM

WOW...

This was my first post and i'm blown away by the response i've received here and in private message from this forum. 

I'm taking notes and going to soak in all the advice given (great website links too folks - thanks!).

 

Thanks so much everyone, going to be a fun and busy summer! 

 

Cheers!


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