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#1 ALN

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 10:25 PM

i was a the geen this weekend and tried my luck there. Seemed a bit slow as i seen only saw 3 hits out of the day, but the real problem is that i cant seem to get a good distance on my centerpin to get in those spots that have fish. What size float and weights should be recommended on such a big river? Since i believe it will help with the cast and also what cast are you using? i tried the wallis cast but it didnt get me really far (i need to practice it more). Then a nice fellow up there gave me some tips and i was doing this forward cast thing....not sure what it was. lol but i got me better distance i would say maybe 15-20ft?

im trying to get to the 30-40ft range cast the people makes it look easy and effortless. any tips? Thanks

 


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#2 classic drifter

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 10:56 PM

As far as my experience goes with casting, it seems much easier to gain distance on a 9 or 10 gram float farther than my usual 3.5 to 6 gram setups. But when i noticed that timing and rod loading seems to get it out as far as a heavier setup compared to a much lighter setup. As time passes by and you get alot comfortable with your equipment youll find ways on how to utilize every little bit of it, its funny how we all get this problem but practice and changing a little bit of things could make the worlds difference. I use a somehow forward swing + a little side or pull cast most of the time and it usuall gets me to where i want to be drifting. Hope this helps.
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#3 NiagaraSteel

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:00 PM

Try an 11g drennan piker and shot it till just the orange part sits above the water. Practice the wallis but if you can't whip it without getting birdsnests just do the side cast till you learn the wallis. After a few outings on big water you will be able to whip that thing a country mile.
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#4 ChasinTails

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:07 AM

i keep my rod so that the open face of the reel is facing where i want to cast then i whip it out and the line comes off it like on a spinning reel. keep in mind that if the rod is sideways, I'm casting sideways i.e. if i reel with my left hand then I'm facing to my right so that the reel is facing the water, then in respect to the way I'm standing cast from about 2-3 o'clock to normal which is like an 11 


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#5 CJR

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:50 AM

11g,15g, 22g slip floats. 


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#6 ALN

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:27 PM

Thanks for all the reply i'll probably go get some new float as im using something way to light it seems. the way im casting now is im holding line out with my left hand (i have the reel in the right) i swing back around 2-3oclock to load the rod and cast, almost like a normal spinning reel, then i use my left hand to guide the line until the float hits the water. i guess its just practice and more practice :D hope i get time to head out to try this again.


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#7 Shmogley

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 09:20 PM

definitely go up to the 10g area with your rigging. this helps load the rod a lot more and makes learning how to cast much easier. afterwards you can work your way down to a comfortable compromise of stealth/function.

 

of course it all depends on the water but i prefer a 4g setup for most situations


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#8 RiverRuns

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 06:10 PM

Most guys I see on the Geen are slinging 6-11gram; the heavier ones if they are fishing wider. Make sure you keep that non- casting hand wide until your cast is complete...letting it go can cause your cast to land short. Also, make sure you don't wear grippy gloves or have wet hands.
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#9 ALN

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 06:50 PM

Most guys I see on the Geen are slinging 6-11gram; the heavier ones if they are fishing wider. Make sure you keep that non- casting hand wide until your cast is complete...letting it go can cause your cast to land short. Also, make sure you don't wear grippy gloves or have wet hands.

 

yah a guy on the river told me to cast like that too. to keep my non casting hand wide and guide the line. ive been getting better progress slowly and im probably going to run a 15 to 22G float. i go to the geen once a year to visit a buddy and also stay the weekend since i dont know anywhere else to fish for trout in toronto. my 13.5ft rod makes it a hassle in small creeks and river :( but i'm going to try and get down to bowmanville or the grand in the future before the run dies down.


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#10 coldfeet

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 05:01 PM

big floats help, also watch your rod in the backcast and when it loads you'll see it flex then fling it.


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#11 Tacklelogic

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 06:10 PM

I use the catipult effect. I have at least 6ft of line out from the tip, slowly swing the rod tip forward first to start the "load" on the rod. As you swing back slowly, pick up momentum thus creating a large amount of load on the rod. You will feel the load as you continue with the swing. Give your line hand a quick snap and release as you follow through with your cast. Your rod tip should should stop in the 9:30 - 10 o'clock position.


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#12 BNG

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:45 PM

Thank you guys for the great tips. I am on the same boat as ALN. Just got my centerpin set up and started practicing. I went to one of the east trib. and cast,cast ,cast  until my arm hurts. There was a very nice gentlemen there who gave me some practical tips and I was able to observe what he was doing. I guess practice and correct tips are the key.  Hopefully everything will come together.

 

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#13 James5354

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 11:07 PM

use a bigger float and more split shots, the rod loads better like that when you swing it, therefore a longer and smoother cast. also check out this video on casting tips.

 


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#14 LordMykiss

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:42 AM

 I find if you pull the line over hand instead of under hand, you can cast much better. if you live in toronto i can show you how to cast easily.


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#15 ALN

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 04:16 PM

thanks for all the tips! ive been practicing so lets hope i get better :P


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#16 fishfight

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:22 PM

Try the Double loop, i added this to my wallace cast and my float goes farther. When I was learning the Wallace cast, I was too concern of potential bird nest, adding the double loop helps gain distance easier rather than spinning the reel fast.
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