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Posted 18 March 2016 - 05:37 PM

Don't get me wrong.
I do enjoy the show.
But when they mention 400 fish runs my heart sinks.
Especially with the talk in Ontario now to revise the Atlantic and to bad about the rainbow and salmon.
I don't think they'll ever get away not stocking salmon.
Millions every year in the charter and tackle business.
But I fearfor the rainbow stocking.
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Posted 18 March 2016 - 09:18 PM

Let's hope smarter heads will prevail. I u see stand the whole Atlantic thing but we can't replocate a fish that took generations to survive our fresh water systems. I'm not a scientist by any means so maybe I'm wrong. The amount of money rainbow and salmon generate can't simply be ignored can it????
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Posted 19 March 2016 - 12:08 AM

stocking atlantics is a big waste of money......they barely return.....more focus should be on salmon and trout...


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Posted 19 March 2016 - 08:12 AM

Don't get me wrong.
I do enjoy the show.
But when they mention 400 fish runs my heart sinks.
Especially with the talk in Ontario now to revise the Atlantic and to bad about the rainbow and salmon.
I don't think they'll ever get away not stocking salmon.
Millions every year in the charter and tackle business.
But I fearfor the rainbow stocking.

 

 

rainbow stocking hasn't be done for a long time out east, its only toronto way that still stocks bows.  a few years ago was the last spawning run for the hatchery fish, everything else is wild population.

 

when they say a run of 400 fish, it depends on time of year, and what system they are fishing.  the rivers in gaspe bay get tens of thousands of returns.  this is from the darthmouth river. and yes, the waters there are gin gin clear

 

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 09:55 AM

30k steelhead sorted clipped and ready to go on Saugeen. Says new one day record.
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Posted 19 March 2016 - 07:31 PM

lake huron side they have to stock, population has been dwindling, salmon are eating crayfish because the baitfish is so low, i took it as you talk about lake ontario because thats where the atlantic stocking program is.


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Posted 19 March 2016 - 08:42 PM

Atlantic salmon are stocked in the St Mary's river which than make it to lake Huron and Georgian bay.Trout lake near north bay has a population as the result of stocking also.
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Posted 19 March 2016 - 08:58 PM

they could possibly make their way into huron, but most likely stay in superior.  but even then, the st mary river has a very large atlantic salmon return, but the river is a hell of a lot cleaner and colder than anything around here


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Posted 19 March 2016 - 09:51 PM

True enough.
For a strain that comes up the river June July and August. DOOMED
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Posted 20 March 2016 - 04:53 AM

they could possibly make their way into huron, but most likely stay in superior.  but even then, the st mary river has a very large atlantic salmon return, but the river is a hell of a lot cleaner and colder than anything around here


They aren't stocked in superior. The go in the st Mary's below the dam/ locks which is gb. Although I have seen the locks full of pinks before
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Posted 30 March 2016 - 04:08 PM

Joel, sorry bud but I have personally assisted with Rainbow Trout stocking programs in the last few years out east, and they will continue into the next few years at least. 

 

rainbow stocking hasn't be done for a long time out east, its only toronto way that still stocks bows.  a few years ago was the last spawning run for the hatchery fish, everything else is wild population.


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Posted 30 March 2016 - 08:48 PM

Fishheads, Do they clip fish out east, I've yet to catch one with any clippings.
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Posted 30 March 2016 - 11:24 PM

Joel, sorry bud but I have personally assisted with Rainbow Trout stocking programs in the last few years out east, and they will continue into the next few years at least. 

 

i thought they stopped that years ago, ganny boasts like 95% wild stock according to their fishway people


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 09:15 AM

if you don't think it will happen look at georgian bay. All the charters have disappeared, salmon fishery has collapsed and rainbow will be next


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 09:42 AM

if you don't think it will happen look at georgian bay. All the charters have disappeared, salmon fishery has collapsed and rainbow will be next

 

That has nothing to do with Atlantics, its a bait fish issue. Hopefully its a cycle and the bait fish will rebound with the low salmon populations. 

 

As for the Lake Ontario projects I am glad that the MNR and the Province make the decisions as anglers seem to miss the bigger picture and only think about returns and how many fish we get in a day. 


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 10:22 AM

That has nothing to do with Atlantics, its a bait fish issue. Hopefully its a cycle and the bait fish will rebound with the low salmon populations. 

 

As for the Lake Ontario projects I am glad that the MNR and the Province make the decisions as anglers seem to miss the bigger picture and only think about returns and how many fish we get in a day. 

Why you have to think outside the box?


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