LordMykiss

not me, the cost of entrance and commute will be greater that any minor savings. unless you are buying a rod or reel that are expensive and you could get a good discount, i think it is waste of money.

also without tightlines, one of the better fishing stores are gone.and al flaherty's wont bring any fishing.

double edge sword chasintails. your sand might come out np but your line will get stuck between the spool and the backplate as easy.

I think with recent technology, with few good HD pictures and measurements, they can replicate the same fish. Personally I am against keeping alpha gene pool.

daaaaaaaannnngggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bro!!!!!!!! The hen that i mounted last year was a few pounds smaller than that, maybe 3 or 2, im guessing, was stacked of eggs! But the taxidermist didnt manage to keep it for me.nice hen bro!

this one safely went back in the water with all her eggs.

It is about the fishing. Who cares what you catch or what size. Those types of obsessions lead to frustration vs enjoyment.

If you catch a salmon as fresh as steelhead, the fight is a lot harder, at smaller sizes, they can fight on par with steelhead in acrobatics. Now if you fight dark salmon vs late Nov winter steelhead that are sluggish. I take salmon since they are bigger and give you harder fight. Also salmon are harder to catch. Only reason steelhead seem so hard to catch is over fishing and pressure. other wise they are as aggressive as any other fish.

you can catch ANYTHING, put a worm on and keep it off the bottom 1-2 feet, you can catch anything that exists in lake o. also be really careful going down the steps. and pray there is not too much ice.

 

good point ill try and head down to the local shop and get some advice. thank you 

make sure you take your reel, if you have a float reel, make sure it has backing and line on it. all rods feel perfectly light and balanced if you wiggle it around. but once you put the reel on rings where you find most comfortable, or put reel in a seat, you will truly get the feel of its balance and how long you can hold it.

 

 

on another board someone is selling Raven IM8 13' reel seat for 200, i have that rod and let me tell you, it is amazing rod. i would buy that over tranquility any day, but the steamside is much lighter than raven. also after being stuck with ring on my RV9, i would STRONGLY advise you to buy a rod with reel seat, only down side is, if you prefer a particular positioning of your reel, then you will not be comfortable.

 

if you go with streamside, 11.5 is more suited for east, and 13 for mid to larger rivers, north and west.

but i think were veering greatly away from the OP and think we should get back on track 

some one necromanced this  3 year old thread, the OP dealt with it already, over 2 years ago. most people can't fish with their cp now and the site has been boring and quiet and seem to want to make it lively. some people can't live without conflict.

 

as far as ferrari vs honda, when it comes to accident prevention it is a lot easier with a high torque car than a slow car, if you have to lets say make a left turn with a ferrai as cars are coming is a lot different than a honda, by the time honda reaches x speed the oncoming car can T bone you, a ferrari would of been over the line few seconds before that. but going speed limit on the same highway at 100 they are exactly same. basically using high end cp or low end cp on frogwater vs fast water.

 

as far as high end vs low end these are my points i have learnd from 13 years of fishing with a cp,

 

mid High end $400-800

Pros:

-sturdy.

-Tight tolerance.

-won't leave room for line to get caught behind the back plate.

-startup in frogwater/slower water for maximum presentation.

-smoothness for maximum presentation

-needs to be bought once and lasts decades if taken care of properly.

-generally more comfortable in hand.

-don't need to be paid attention to as you fish and you can concentrate more on your float, rod tip and presentation instead of worrying about what the reels is doing.

-better materials that are more durable.

-better quality control.

 

 

Cons:

-expensive for most non avid CP fisherman that not sure about cping.

-if it is your first reel and you don't like the type of fishing will not be a good investment.

 

 

Low end $30-200

Pros:

-cheap.

-readily available.

-does the job in faster waters.

-good investment for people that are not sure if they want to stick to that style of fishing.

 

 

Cons:

-cheap Chinese material with fancy colour that were marked up 500+%.

-manually has to be started in some water conditions, even in some medium  condition, and definitely in slow conditions.

-have to be paid attention to it make sure it is performing properly, and that takes away from watching the float.

-can cause your cast/float to come out of the right drift due to spool not turning.

-known for the line to get caught behind back plate and snap, due to loose tolerance.

-it needs/ends up being replaced 1-2 times life time excluding the original reel, as the owner's standards change, costing more than price of a single mid high end reel within the same time.

-wobbly.

-feels cheap in hands.

-usually very light due to cheap materials.

-mass produced and minimal quality controlled.

 

 

now if you can justifying spending 200 dollars on a 500+% marked up Ukrainian reel with slightly better bearings, mind you, 2 stainless bearing, not German, not Japanese, not marine grade, NOT even abec(does not meet the standard) just good old standard bearing and manually starting your reel with your finger, and you think it was a good logical purchase and you were smart for not spending extra 100 on an islander, then you prove the point why i have given up giving advice about cp reels and their mechanics on this site. i do see the irony in this post. but it is more for the new people that might see this thread.

where did you buy your waders? was it a simms official dealer? the store that is?

naming tribs is against forum rules!

i have to say don't be notty and post river names, against forum rules. you need to say GB tribe. i don't fish it or i would of helped you

Age has a lot to do with it. Most crimes are committed by males in that same age group, the most car accidents, the most littering and they are the  most likely to break fish and game laws . 

all that darn testosterone!!

I dropped to 8 from the 10 because I dropped to a lighter rod.. Does anyone run 10 or up, on a rod rated 4-8??

the rating on a rod is your weakest link, not your main line. you can use 45lb braid on a 3-6 rod, as long as your leader is 3lb you will be fine.

crazy how they get that big without eyes, i guess those barbels are doing their magic.

call before you go to any of those places. unless you are just starting and need some advice. personally i ask this board first, then after a shopping list, call them up and see their prices. we have really good seasoned fishermen that always help on this board.